new future scenario.... :)

[playerxxcc1]

ooo nice, what civs r possible to get? hope u put at least 4 sea civs , and no gay maya

[Yilar]

the playable civs got no traits and no uus hehe

[playerxxcc1]

oh no ag tahst cool also

[gappen]

Ok im seriously sick of this now.
"Fine, what do we care about you newb?"

...Damnit, why does everything have to be perfectly balanced?
Why does everything need to be changed so that nobody has a chance to get some bad luck.
Building a nation, a civilization requires you to work with what you have, it's a new challenge with every location, civilization and enemy.

But now instead...everything is getting balanced, people are even making scenarios with 5 times more resources so nobody will get without one... GAH!
Why not give everyone ready made cities and a custom map with x number of cows at each starting location to? Seriously...!


And upon that, nobody is still updating the civilopedia. DO you yourselves even have a clue of what each and every thing does compared to the original?

[Yilar]

Get a clue....

We play balanced scenario's cause it is more fun. Instead of flipping coins to see who wins we balance the scenario to make it more skillfull and therefore more enjoyable.

The civilopedia is not as easy to update as you think. There is only one civilopedia file and if you changed that then when you play "real" games it will show up differently. Or you would have to vastly change the entries (meaning a lot of work).

If you really want to play these epics games you have to find some people with a lot of time and that is not easy.

[spike_knights]

Delete ICBM's too. Tacticals are cool, and require a bit of skill and guile to use. By time you get 2 players firing icbm's it's not so much about skill as it is whose sdi gonna give first, whether the king gets hit or not. I've been in alot of games where the first nuke fired at me goes right through sdi.

Not a terrible request seeing as I think hatten should be removed. Tired of under defending wussies trying to do t40 nuking every other game.

[gappen]

Apr 18, 2008 14:02:38 GMT -5 Yilar said:

Get a clue....

We play balanced scenario's cause it is more fun. Instead of flipping coins to see who wins we balance the scenario to make it more skillfull and therefore more enjoyable.

The civilopedia is not as easy to update as you think. There is only one civilopedia file and if you changed that then when you play "real" games it will show up differently. Or you would have to vastly change the entries (meaning a lot of work).

If you really want to play these epics games you have to find some people with a lot of time and that is not easy.

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Nah hell no. Futures are futures. Regicide , 90 turns.


But they aren't anywhere near what they were when I started some months ago. They keep changing all the time and for what purpous?!

IF you don't have the skills to play a truly *random* map then that's your problem, not mine. And if you can't handle a loss once in a while because of the random situation and your unability to handle it then that's also your problem.

That doesn't mean one of the most loved scenarios should be turned into a homogenic boring heap of crap.
What fun is there if you don't have to fight for the few scarse resources and good landareas? Meh then it's just about building cruise missiles and nukes and getting the king. Instead of a real battle.

[gappen]

Apr 18, 2008 21:53:52 GMT -5 spike_knights said:

Delete ICBM's too. Tacticals are cool, and require a bit of skill and guile to use. By time you get 2 players firing icbm's it's not so much about skill as it is whose sdi gonna give first, whether the king gets hit or not. I've been in alot of games where the first nuke fired at me goes right through sdi.

Not a terrible request seeing as I think hatten should be removed. Tired of under defending wussies trying to do t40 nuking every other game.

I agree. IF there is to be a single more change to this game it's the removal of ICBMs. they work in normal games, not in regicide.

[heroheca]

Jan 19, 2006 13:54:22 GMT -5 playerxxcc1 said:

i made new future scenario, based on wtibs 1.2, with few modifications, also borowed immortals tactics , and some ideas from elrads scenario


www.freewebs.com/playerxxcc/newfuture1.90reducedres.biq

www.freewebs.com/playerxxcc/newfuture1.90reducedres-cccmode.biq


there is thread i made some time back, about what wonder each civ needs for ga, but obviously no1 use it, i post link also here:

civ3players.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=Scenarios&action=display&thread=1170680881

List of chenges 1.90:
-demo pay for units (as all other goverments)
-rep and demo dont pay for building mantainace
-barracs, airport, harbor, military academy, gives u +10% defense each, cumulative
-sam site +5% defense
-librabry give 2 contenet

List of changes in 1.81:

-sugar +1 food
-rubber +1 shild
-gold shield ratio 1:4, it used to be 1:3
-republic vorruption lvl: same as monarchy (dunno what name is)

List of changes in 1.77:

new size avialable:
if u choose large map, map is not large but small 70x70!!!
if u choose huge map, map is not huge but medium 90x90!!!



goverments- demo is back as it used to be

-demo as it was
-communism, lower suport, t4 c7 m10, mil police 4
-rep, little more support for units in bigger cities, t0 c2 m3
-fasc, same


units-only naval units changed, ships get +1hp(except carrier and galleon), bigger ships got some boost, rest is same:

-battleship, 20(2*12).14.6, bombard range 5(+1), +1hp bonus, kill units
-agis, 16(2*10).12.7, bombard range 3, kill units, carry 1 tactical misile


all building taht used to be rep buildings, r now avialable too all gov, except wall street sm. wonder, it can be built only under demo.


List of chnges in 1.76:

cous standard map is too big for 3v3 and small little to tight, i made new size,

small(80x80) same as it was, usefull for 2v2, u need to pick tiny map insetup room
medium(90x90), new size, usefull for 3v3 games, can be played 4v4 as well, u need to pick small map in setup room
standard(98x98) same as it was

if u want to play small pick tiny map, if u want to play medium pick small, standard is tandard .... thought taht those names would be same in setup room, when u pick... but obviously they aint



due to complaints taht rep too strong(and it realy was) i lowered its power a bit:

republic:
-forced settlement (same as fasc, if +2 citizen dies when oout of anarchy)
-no military police
-no free support for units
-spies r regular
comunist:
-spies elite
fascist
-spies veteran

units
-subcruise cost 35
-conquistador cost 25(as other knights)





list of changes in 1.76:

u can build armies now



units:

-scout 0.0.3, ignore all terain
-king 0.3.2, defence lowered
-knight(and all its variations), cost lowered, rest same, 50(25)
-cavalery(and all its variations), cost lowered, 68(34)
-elephant, 4.3.2, ingnore jungle, forest, 50(25), requires ivory, uu of india, starts GA
-berserker 50(25)
-tactical nuke, uran only
-n sub can carry 3 now
-army, 120(60)

buildings:
all buildings now gives u small amount of defense(cumulatie with all), level 1 buildings +5%, level 2 buildings +8%, level 3 +10%, sm. wonders +10%, gr. wonders 15%, for example factory is lvl1, nuclear, coal hydro is lvl2, manu lvl3

i fixed commercial bug(commercial trait didnt lowered price for commercial building even though it was checked in editor), by adding new buildings. those r c. market, c. bank, c stockexchange, c. commercial dock

-c. bank 60(30), +50% taxes, rep only
-bank 80(40), +50% taxes, rep only
-c. stock exchange 100(50), +50% taxes, +50% lux, rep only
-stock exchange 140(70), +50% taxes, +50% lux, rep only
-temple, 2 happy faces
-c. wall street=wallstreet, same, can be built only in republic


wonders: all wonders except pyr and manhaten alowes city grow 12+

-mausoleum, only sea sci again, ga for byz only, persia nad cartg had too easy ga
-newton, 400(200), ind sci com, GA for persia, france, grece
-sistine chapel, 400(200), reli com sea, every city gain chatedral, GA for england, india, spain
-copernicus, 400(200), mil exp sci, GA for zulu, mongol, germany, rusia
-leonardo, 400(200), cheaper
-j. bach, 400(200), reli sci, every city gets temple and 1 happy face, city were its built 2 happy, GA for baby
-smith trading co., 400(200), exp reli sea, +1 seamovement, free trade impruvemnts, ga for india, spain, porto, arabs
-seti=theory of evolution, 1200(600) +2 tech
-manhaten, 500(250), no more free tactical nukes
-hoover dam, 600(300), ind agr, every city gets solar plant, ga for maya
-magelan, 400(200), ind exp sea com, destroyer/5t, ga for cartg, usa, france, porto, england
-cure for cancer, 200, com agri sci, ga grece, sumer iroq korea



sm wonders:

-forbidden palace, 120(60), 2nd palace, alowes 7+, but u need some number of cities...
-palace is much cheaper, so if u get screwed with p.enisula and u pop some nice and no1 there, umight conseeder to move palace...
-inteligence agency, 120(60), incerase apearence of mil leader
-military academy, 120(60), alowes army
-batelfield medicine, 200(100), alowes city 12+, alowes 4 unit army, increas army attack/defense +25%, units heal in enemy land


goverments:

-fasc, spies reg
-communism, spies veteran
-rep, worker 150%, spies elite
-demo sux...


thats all...


any coments, suggestions, critics.... r wellcome

[BoNeHeD]

ya no nukes version is fun to play