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Post by jeffmann77 on Dec 10, 2007 17:26:24 GMT -5
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.... There are alot of policies I dont like that Bush is doing. The Most important right now for me though, He had the Intestinal Fortitude to Take the war to the Terrorists, instead of Letting the Terrorist take the war to us. Kinda like in the game of Civ. If you have a "Jag Rusher" right next to you, Do you A: Wait for him to rush you? B: Build lots of defense and Suffer the entire game? C: Rush the Rusher, and hope for Victory? lol he took the war to the terrorists. again, there were no terrorists in Iraq before we got there. invading the wrong country is not what you call intestinal fortitude. it's what you call just plain dumb. lucky for us though, since we have arrived Iraq has filled up with terrorists rather well. now maybe we can stay for another decade. |
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Post by heroray on Dec 10, 2007 17:47:33 GMT -5
a decade is a short time.
Are we not still in Japan? Korea? Germany?
Kinda like "Global warming" here. You cant look at a short period of time, and expect drastic changes.
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Post by Don K Hotay on Dec 10, 2007 18:36:38 GMT -5
I want the next president to invade the red states (Jesusland), those are our true enemies...................though judging by how much heat Ray packs I doubt the invasion would succeed  |
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Post by whiplash on Dec 13, 2007 10:33:06 GMT -5
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Post by Gracchus on Dec 13, 2007 14:33:26 GMT -5
I don't see a grand jury in this county indicting him.
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Post by whiplash on Dec 13, 2007 20:19:29 GMT -5
I don't see a grand jury in this county indicting him. You might be right. It depends on the redneck ratio ;D Indictment only requires majority vote of the Grand Jury, no? |
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Post by Gracchus on Dec 14, 2007 16:24:18 GMT -5
I just looked up Texas' statute: In Texas counties, a grand jury has 12 members, and a quorum (9) is required to indict.
I don't see this guy getting indicted.
It would also probably be political suicide for the D.A. to press this case.
In Texas, this is the Grandpa everyone wished they had.
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Post by Stormbringer on Dec 14, 2007 19:13:59 GMT -5
Wednesday, December 12, 2007 Joe Horn and Texas Defense Laws Last month, Pasadena resident Joe Horn shot and killed two burglars as they robbed his neighbor's home. What crime is Horn guilty of, if any? First, here is what is known about the incident: Horn, a sixty-one year old computer consultant, heard glass breaking around 11AM. He looked outside his window and saw two men entering his neighbor's home. After grabbing his shotgun, Horn called 911 and spent around six minutes on the phone with the emergency operator. When Horn saw the two burglars emerge from the neighbor's home, he becomes worried that the burglars will get away. Despite repeated warnings from the 911 operator to stay inside and wait for the police, he loads his shotgun and goes outside. He says "Move and you're dead!" and a second later shoots and kills one man. He fires two more shots and kills the second man. Both men are shot in the back. Both are on Horn's property. A plainclothes Pasadena officer, who had just pulled up in his car, witnessed the entire incident. Under Texas law, one way the State can prove murder is by proving that Horn intentionally caused the death of the two burglars. The punishment range for murder is 5-99 years; probation is not an option since September 1, 2007. Furthermore, the Harris County D.A. could charge the offense as capital murder since two people died during the same incident. The minimum sentence for capital murder is life--the maximum is death. It is extremely unlikely that the D.A. would pursue a death sentence against Horn because of his lack of criminal history. It would be a non-death capital murder prosecution, and if Horn is convicted, he would have to serve 40 years before being eligible for parole. Horn's defense will start with Texas Penal Code Sections 9.42 "Deadly Force to Protect Property" and 9.43, "Protection of Third Person's Property" which can be read to allow the use of deadly force to prevent the burglary of someone else's home. Horn can also argue self-defense. Horn would argue that the burglars were on his property and he feared for his life. So far the D.A. has not commented on the case. Their comment will come in the form of a grand jury decision--if the D.A. is behind the case, expect an indictment in the next couple of weeks. The relevant defense statutes--Self-Defense, Defense of Third Person's Property, and Deadly Force to Protect Property--are located in Chapter 9 of the Texas Penal Code In Texas, this is the Grandpa everyone wished they had. Yeah,no doubt,eh. Even with a cop eyewitness,Mr. Horn wasn't even takin into custody. When he dies in a few years they'll name the street after him. |
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Post by Lastride on Jan 24, 2008 0:24:34 GMT -5
Shroom boy!!
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Post by Gracchus on Jul 1, 2008 1:03:06 GMT -5
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Post by whiplash on Jul 1, 2008 5:25:09 GMT -5
So, the jury redneck ratio was favorable.
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Post by Yilar on Jul 1, 2008 6:35:12 GMT -5
Only in America... If this had been in a civilized part of the world the man would be have be convincted of murder.
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Post by Don K Hotay on Jul 1, 2008 20:17:19 GMT -5
The two dudes that billy bob shot were illegal aliens, so there goes his chances of being sued in civil court.........clearly the guy has a rabbit's foot up his ass!
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Post by whiplash on Jul 2, 2008 5:38:42 GMT -5
I'm curious on how the jury split on the verdict.
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Post by Gracchus on Jul 2, 2008 10:09:01 GMT -5
Me too. I doubt there was even a single vote to indict, but am curious to see.
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