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Post by sdn26 on Nov 5, 2007 6:30:08 GMT -5
POP wins again CCC …..the difference from the other clan was one and clear they care only to win without respect other.
In the pass when GC don’t have players we conceded one game and try to win 2 of 2 to deserve it….l remember AWP did the same we lost 1 or 2 time 2 – 0 and they take the victory despite one game conceded.
In the final we were ready to play we were 9 people ready to play while POP was only 5. After about like 20 min to talk we decide to start 2 games (3v3anc and one 2v2 UU ) and the future will start as soon as POP future players return in lobby…but l think was clear that one future game will start or POP conceded. We played 2 game and the result was 1-1…cause future didn’t start l think we won…but they don’t like to loose so they say was a tie…..l was so tired l start play at 17:00 and was 23:00 without eat and don’t like to talk with all night so l say to my clan if they want this tie-mach….in real almost all GC were tired and noone wants play in the real but at the end u know GC style so we send 3 tired people to play the tie-match. POP win ok take u CCC but if the rumours say that POP is not a great clan like others that win a lot of CCC don’t complain....
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Post by Avogadro on Nov 5, 2007 6:34:44 GMT -5
There was some confusion by clans involved as to what the format was. It was this:
"Finals
Best of 3
3v3 ancient- 2 games with different players representing clan. If tied one game a piece, 3rd game with who ever you want to play to break the tie."
But yes events should start on TIME. You played great sdn, me dying two times in finals hurt you bad.
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Post by sdn26 on Nov 5, 2007 6:42:16 GMT -5
no avo there were no confusion l talk with POP and the agreement was clear....l say we wll not play after with the same people plese start future asap or conceded .....at the end they do what they wants and they did the 3th game after with same people....and some GC dident play future match...so they waste time to stay in lobby to play finals...this is not respect...cause when u are not ready there is another clan that are waiting....for this people dont play CCC anymore...wait wait without respect. the same happened in event 5 people take 7 hours to make a game and we had to wait 10 hours before play.....l think this are the thing that put people away from this game
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Post by rodrigom on Nov 5, 2007 6:53:12 GMT -5
Shouldn't finals be a best of three 3v3 ancient? Why you played future and UU?
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Post by Yilar on Nov 5, 2007 7:23:57 GMT -5
I think everyone was confused by the lack of "real" information about the finals in the original ccc post. We lost fair and square sdn. Now get over it and blame avo for dying at an almost unreal rate (3 times in 2 games!) yesterday Saying PoP is not a worthy winner is a low blow and I think you should apologize, you oboviously DIDN'T read the rules either. It said 2 games of 3v3 and a tiebreaker game if it ended 1-1. It did not say when the games were suppose to start or how the format should have been. If anything you should blame the admins for clearly stating the format/time etc...
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Post by nascar on Nov 5, 2007 7:24:35 GMT -5
rod we didn't play uu sdn told me exactly what he said but then avo told me we were suppose to start a 2 3v3 ancs and then if we tie we play another. I listened to avo because he made the ccc and I am sorry sdn I was just following the events avo told me to play because that what is on the ccc page. Even if we did say we would play that we can't change the ccc format if we want I was going to do exactly that but avo told me not to and to get a another 3v3 anc team.
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Post by sdn26 on Nov 5, 2007 8:18:53 GMT -5
the question is this a lot of time in the past the format say one think and the Clan according to change. There is no write rule that came from a common sense of fair plain. For example if format say 3 3v3 but one clan have only 6 players the clans can agree to do 3 2v2 instead reclaim a win in one game...GC like almost all clan did in that way in the past. This time everyone was confused its right but at one point Avo say this"l cant speak for GC cause l m a TD so please talk with nascar cause u are capitan " We talk cause POP only have 4 players(but other 2 will show) we did an agreement to do 1 2v2 UU 1 2v2 Anc and start one 2v2future in no more than 50 min . After stev join in lobby and he say if we can change the 2v2 regular in a 3v3 and l say ok but to rember to start future asap. We play our regular 3v3(banned tecs and sumer like in semi) and we win while we lose another game and future dident start; POP reclaim a tie-mach This are the fact
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Post by Retnuh on Nov 5, 2007 9:17:11 GMT -5
haha sdn there manipulations for games is the smallest problem we have...leader was glitchy like crazy...he had warriors moving 2 moves a turn and impis attacking twice a turn...im sending saves to ant and brig for them to tell me what they were doing then will be sending saves to avo.
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Post by nascar on Nov 5, 2007 9:56:24 GMT -5
no effence sdn but I listen to avo over u since he is the head admin so when he told me it was 2 3v3's I listened I am sorry for that but I had a future team and asked your clan for a future team and they said no we have another 3v3 anc team like it is suppose to play so it was lack of communcation by u sdn for not telling them they were playing a future
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Post by Avogadro on Nov 5, 2007 15:30:06 GMT -5
I was simply wishing both teams could make arrangements to avoid admins stepping in. I wished this cause 4 admins were playing in these finals.
This being said, if deals were made with sdn then changed...I can understand his frustration. Next CCC, when events start a clan missing players after 15 minutes will have to concede the event. Not fair to keep the euros waiting 10 hours then another hour when semis are done for lack of players available. Thanks
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Post by thequeen on Nov 5, 2007 17:16:33 GMT -5
I believe this all stems from a misunderstanding of the format of the finals. You and nasc seemed to have originally thought there would be a future event, and so put teams together or made some negotiations (not entirely clear here), but then when I talked to Avo he said that the finals was nothing but Ancient 3v3's, 2 of which are done simultaneously and if it turns out to be a tie 1-1 you play a 3rd tie breaker 3v3. Somehow this must not have been conveyed to you Sdn and this problem was caused. I would have told you myself but I thought that GC may have told you already. Sorry for the confusion.
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