Large map PBEM!

[Don K Hotay]

Playing Order:
DonKHotay, 6pm-12am EST
Granny Carol, 7PM-1am EST
a_night, 8am-12am EST
Plattfus, 1-4pm EST
Donald Kipper, 2-5pm EST


Game Settings:
-Game Type: PBEM
-Game Mode: Standard
-Timer: None
-World Size: Large
-Barbs: Roaming
-Land Mass: Random
-Water Cov: 80
-Climate: Normal
-Temperature: Temperate
-Age: 5 Billion
-Difficulty: Emperor

Game Rules:
-Allow All Victories except Wonder and Diplomatic
-Victory Point Scoring on
-Preserve Random Seed
-AP
-NON ELIM
-Allow Cultural Conversions
-Allow Sci leaders
-All else OFF

Game Limits
-Victory Points: 100000000000000

As for Reporting:
-No Benchmarks
-If you get killed or quit, 3 reports to all players in game when you left
-If you win the game by any of the victory conditions or have the most VICTORY points by 2050AD (540th turn), you get 2 reports from all players in game. ONLY the winner gets reports at the end of the game.

[donaldkipper]

ill play


can i suggest we use AP?

this might just move things on a bit quicker thats all

[AdmiralHein12]

Might try it, not a fan of VP but PBEM sounds fun and is new so I will try, time pending.

[plattfuss]

count me in as well.

I like the set up in general but would second Donald post to use AP just to get thinks moving a bit faster.

Civ choice: Inca
Pref. playing time 1-4 pm EST

[Don K Hotay]

AP it is....I'll keep track of players interested on the first post.

[donaldkipper]

admiral, bear in mind we are not reporting at benchmarks, so VP would only come into consideration if a victory condition isnt reached by 2050

so to all intents and puposes, there is no 'scoring' other than who can either.....

eliminate all the civs
hold 66% of land and population
earn a culture victory
or build a spaceship

if someone hasnt built a spaceship by 2050 (or the game won in another way) i'll be amazed

can we turn diplomatic off?, that would be a bit of a cheap way to win

[a_night]

I will play. Diplo victory off was a good suggestion. I am not certain about the AP aspect over the long term.....need more experience to compare.....but it certainly will bring quicker action in the first era.

I am on Eastern Standard Time. What seems the most crucial to communicate is the block of time for which I will not be checking e-mail to play my turn. Midnight to 8:00 AM I would typicaly be unavailable. I have little problem checking frequently outside of that.

What about diplomacy outside of the game? Any limitations such as revealing map details? And is in game contact required before diplomacy is permitted?

If all players had the maturity to accept a guideline I would love to see diplomacy held in the sense that cooperation that achieves mutual objectives or fair exchanges would be fine. But "Teaming" with the goal of eliminating and sharing another players land is overboard. Only a consideration....Not even sure it can be expressed concretely as a rule. All is fair in love and war.....or is it?

[donaldkipper]

best hours for em to play are 2-5pm EST

regarding diplomacy, out of game contact is the only way to communicate as u cant chat in game

i agree, u should not have contact before meeting in game but i think any level of diplomacy should be allowed

bear in mind, their are no prizes for second place, so just entering a 'full alliance' with your nearest opponent could screw u up - also, unsuccessful attacks can ve VERY costly in VP

might i add, i dont think the game will be settled by VP - i would expect one of the Victory conditions to be triggered before 2050

[GrannyCarol]

I would like to join in. I prefer AP for PBEM, it moves a lot faster and PBEM is a slow way to play. I will, however, be out of town until Monday.

I like Arabia, normally I am available in the mornings - from about 9:30 am to 1 pm Eastern, and in the evenings, from 7 pm until about 1 am Eastern.

[Shrek]

Hi all.
Just curious.
How many days is predictable this game last? (consider it ends in 2050)

New to pbem... and trying to figure out if i can have a long time commitment...

Shrek

[donaldkipper]

2050 = 540 turns

if 8 players, thats 5320 turns to be played ( i did that in my head so it may be wrong)

if it takes a day per player (which is very slow), thats just outside a turn per week

assuming 1 turn per week (slow) at 52 weeks year, 540 turns = somewhere around 10 years - still in my head so may be wrong


however, if turns move much quicker, that timescale obviously radically reduces


in all likelihood, you are probably looking at a year or two, but its not intense

as long as u expect to be able to pass the save on most days (everyone goes on holiday at some point) u should be cool


pbem has a much more single player feel in that u can think about each move and mull over what your strategies will be

[donaldkipper]

as an afterthought, if this game goes to 2050, i would be amazed

AP radically recues game length

[Don K Hotay]

Well, we have 6 so far, and Shrek hasn't posted whether he'd join. Of the 6, I'm not sure whether Admiral Hein will be a dependable player. I've read other posts of his saying he can't play civ during the week as he's a student and so forth. If the epic goes with less than 6 players, I'll set it back to Standard map.

[Shrek]

DonaldKipper said:

2050 = 540 turns

(...)
assuming 1 turn per week (slow) at 52 weeks year, 540 turns = somewhere around 10 years (...)

uah! 10 years will be too ambicious! Anyway I got the picture, sorry to get this out a little of subject and thx... I dont like to javardise the others players games, so, as I am not sure i can assume that compromisse, i will first try it in a little game... pherhaps 1v1 pbem or so... then... if i see i can handle it... i will join the next pbem epic..

have fun civers

[Don K Hotay]

Well folks, looks like we go with 5. I wonder if you all will still be up for a large map. I'd enjoy doing a large map simply because it gives alot of room to plan and build in the first part of the game. I like the notion of having a good amount of time to yourself. In any given VP game I've played, warmongering is the greatest source of points. I'd love that to be true here as well, but I also want people to be better ready for warfare, and better suited to wage or defend, and a big part of that is ensuring we have available and secure resources.

Let me know if it's cool, and then write down your civ preferences and what not.