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Post by FunkyChicken on May 11, 2004 17:05:19 GMT -5
Hey Methodman, exactly what can you do with a Math degree other than teach math to others? :-P ERRMMM works at mcdonalds after all u need maths degree to count burgers  |
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Post by THGmarkthemean on May 26, 2004 20:43:48 GMT -5
But you guys think people will admit their true education, I've had some college, however it is not true to believe that college=brains. Normally that is so, but not always.
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Post by GrannyCarol on Jun 4, 2004 2:45:46 GMT -5
I had four years of college (university) and dropped out many years ago before quite finishing a degree in Ornamental Horticulture. Strange how little that has to do with my life now... except the man I met and married then is still with me. Heh... a few years back, I discovered that knowing the living God has a lot more to do with my "intelligence" than any schooling I took. My life has changed drastically. All the things I once valued, I now realize were pretty useless to me and many things I thought little of are now my life. Amazing...  |
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Post by a_night on Jun 7, 2004 14:57:47 GMT -5
Not the most entertaining thread of the forums, but to be sure Heroic you have managed an intriguing one. A few humble opinions: - College is often presumed in the U.S. for any HS grad who did average or better. Doesn't mean kids know what they want to do and many do not end up in a career in their field of study. - Funds are easily available in the form of grants, (based on need/no repayment/wide variety of sources) scholarships, (based on merrit and often targeted to a particular tallent or cross section of the population. Often the product of an endowment by a wealthy individual or group.) and loans (low interest government supported) - No measure of intelegence that I trust to fairly compare 2 vast groups like college graduates / non-college graduates. Ignorance is shared quite well among us all. Do not the "brightest" minds dis-agree on every "known" idea ever stated? Does history not hold more "truths" proven wrong than certainties we hold today? Education is a mis-contrived notion in many ways by many people. Who am I to state my belief as any more valid, but as a product of my own experience I would suggest many factors other than inteligence determine who attends and completes college. I took 9 years to get my degree. Very rare for people to do it in 4 because life competes with schedules and requirements. I cared too little about grades to apply myself but I learned what intrested me a great deal more than what was simply required. Working toward my BA in communications most llikely helped me get my present job but completing it was mainly to meet cultural perspectives of success. I would take it all again just for the dozen classes that I liked best though very few on that list applied tword my degree. (2 philosophy, 3 sociology, 3 psychology, 1 womens studies, and a few physical science courses) Wow, it actually was a dozen classes. Thanks all for posts. I greatly enjoy the cultural perspectives. By the way I work for a private "4 year" liberal arts college. Liberal Arts as applied here means you are required to take a broad base of courses designed to provide you insight and understanding that is applicable to life. A core concentration then allows more specific profeciencies. I am quite bored with 15 years as a telecommunications tech (10 years at the college) but free tuition for myself, my wife, and my children is encourraging. I have learned sign language, taken more cultural classes, and some education courses to better serve as a foster parent and father. It's all good when it helps you do what you love. Too bad so much time and money go to receive a silly diploma for those like me who didn't need/don't use the "education". Hey Heroic, I had a class on surveys with every thing from developing questions that provide what you need in a manor that engages and encourages respondants to determing the statistical significance and margin for error for the completed surveys. Good luck making use of your findings  |
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Post by whiplash on Jun 7, 2004 15:48:29 GMT -5
I would like to know who the 4 PhD's are |
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Post by Gracchus on Jun 13, 2004 18:02:50 GMT -5
I've got two B.A.'s (History and Political Science) and a Masters (History) - all fairly useless as far as earnings are concerned.
I also a have a J.D. (Juris Doctrate - which fortunately does provide good income), which while not accounted for in the above list, is most similar to a PhD (as it is another doctrate, but of law, not philosophy)
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Post by nealcain on Jun 20, 2004 8:48:03 GMT -5
I know claude is one, not sur eof the other 3 whip....very interesting post...I do have my masters and all that taught me is that I don't know squat.....there is way too much info in the world to be a "master" at anything, but I'm glad i did get it...
Anight...a woman's class? I must know more.....
Nealcain
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Post by PJ on Jun 22, 2004 9:49:12 GMT -5
But you guys think people will admit their true education, I've had some college, however it is not true to believe that college=brains. Normally that is so, but not always. why would anyone need to post fictitional information, expeccially since it is just a poll and we dont even know which people answer with which response  |
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Post by Onan on Jul 14, 2004 14:06:23 GMT -5
Just finished my masters of education, school counseling. I start corrupting...err...assisting the youth this Fall. ;D
Hear hear, whoever said there's just too much knowledge out there to master anything. The more I learn the more I realize I can usually assume my ignorance. It's a good place (maybe the best?) to start.
Onan
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Post by a_night on Jul 14, 2004 16:19:17 GMT -5
Anight...a woman's class? I must know more..... Nealcain One of the better classes I have ever taken. The class began with about 20 women and 2 guys but the other guy bailed after a couple classes. It was obvious the instructor had a chip on her shoulder and I had never before felt second class as she would darn near snear when I participated in class discussions. Other ladies seemed to find humor in it early on but I got a fair amount of ongoing empathy as I continued to learn and share in discussions throughout. I would guess the instructor saw me as a threat to open and in depth discussions and she never failed to hammer my observations or ideals. I put greater effort in the class with the pressure I felt from her and received lower marks than my peers for similar (I might say the same but it has been many years and of couse I am biased) responses on tests. Toughest C I ever "EARNED" but I learned a great many things of great value to me as a husband, father, brother, and most important, peer to other men. 10 weeks of being looked down on left me extensively more aware of my "favored" white middle class male status. I can never again pretend that gender gap is just a catchy phrase or that minority is a simple adjective. I do remember durring that quarter how few guys who expressed curiosity in that course really cared beyond "Cool, your the only guy?" kind of comments. Sorry I am no good at taking simple comments and giving simple replies. The issues were far from light and neither was the impact of the course. I actulay got much of what I expected from the course excepting that inequality could be dealt to me so openly with nothing for me to do but accept it. Reality bites sometimes. But for some it bites evey day. |
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Post by Mrs Hawk on Jul 14, 2004 17:54:05 GMT -5
As the only female member of CIA (A_night's clan), I feel the need at this point to say....
Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Did you see him repressing me?
Just kidding!
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Post by a_night on Jul 15, 2004 11:06:56 GMT -5
Hey Mrs. how bout a little 1v1 I will show you repression! ;D |
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Post by Mrs Hawk on Jul 15, 2004 11:42:29 GMT -5
You're on! How about tonight at 7:45 pm EDT?
Of course, you realize that if I lose, it's not because I'm not as good a civ player as you. It's because of the repression by middle class white males. They design the games. The write the game code. They beta test the games. They keep their women in submission and don't allow them to earn a living wage which prevents women from buying their own computers for gaming purposes. Wicked, bad, naughty, evil white middle class males. They are bad people and must pay the penalty.
Sorry -- slipped into Monty Python again there at the end.
Mrs. H
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Post by a_night on Jul 16, 2004 8:41:44 GMT -5
Yeah I would have played you last night but some men asked me to play. I know you asked first but thats just the way things are. You understand. I missed your last post so when you caught me in the lobby I thought you were teasing. e-mail me for that 1v1 |
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Post by Mrs Hawk on Jul 16, 2004 11:02:11 GMT -5
Of course I understand. You're afraid of a girl.
Actually, it turned out better that we didn't play. Hawk came home from his business trip and being the dutiful wife, I had to kiss his feet, cook his dinner, wash his car, and tend to his every whim and desire (translated == I had to make sure the remote control and a cold adult beverage were within easy reach!).
Mrs. H
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