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Post by rodrigom on May 10, 2007 12:20:08 GMT -5
You can't be serious
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Post by jeffmann77 on May 10, 2007 13:38:34 GMT -5
Now, because it suits the negative ambitions of the anti-human Liberals, it is the use of energy and the production of life-giving carbon dioxide threatening a furnace: all political and religious fantasy. that gave me an laugh wanna know whats scarier than global warming? The fact that 8 of 10 republican presidential candidates don't beleive in evolution. Thats what you call religious fantasy
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Post by XXXTheGoddessXXX on May 10, 2007 14:51:06 GMT -5
Oh the young kids of today. What does evolution and the belief for or against have anything to do with the topic at hand? Im as agnostic as they come, but even I have to admit there are some leaps in evolution. If you set aside the bravdo and cavalier attitude and really think about "how" evolution could happen to the degree it would have to, to support it as a valid theory, you might actually question it yourself. Try to think about each individual organ and what must have happened to have this organ develop without killing its host. I do not think there is enough time to have evolved from slime to human. We havent changed much since recorded history, at best we have gotten a lil taller and a lot fatter. Considering all the new chemicals in our bodies, we should be mutating left and right. Still love this video... www.collegeslackers.com/video/558 ...it reminds me of Rod and fmonk.
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Post by heroray on May 10, 2007 15:31:55 GMT -5
Now, because it suits the negative ambitions of the anti-human Liberals, it is the use of energy and the production of life-giving carbon dioxide threatening a furnace: all political and religious fantasy. that gave me an laugh wanna know whats scarier than global warming? The fact that 8 of 10 republican presidential candidates don't beleive in evolution. Thats what you call religious fantasy You show me the 2 that Do Believe in Evolution is what Created Man, and I will show you 2 Non Consertivities. I once heard a guy that truely believed that "God made man, But he used a monkey to do it".
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Post by Emilioooo on May 10, 2007 16:06:41 GMT -5
Considering all the new chemicals in our bodies, we should be mutating left and right. But we are. Cancer is brought on by mutation, genetic diseases mutations. Also people able to roll their tongue have got mutation to thank. However, with soceity helping the weak, and the people within it living in comfort, mutations which may help will never reveal itself unless there is a need for it. In other words, only when humans are pushed to the limit would a mutation with +ve effects be noticable and therefore advantageous. A good example of this would be if there was an area with large populous that became prone to famines, people who have the "fat gene" (still, i do not believe this gene exists) would now be seen as having a +ve mutation, because they would be able to suvive longer with no food, and have a better chance of living through the famine, with their offspring more likely to suvive any future famines, and a new species would be born -homo humongous. The suvival of the fattest at it's best. ;D
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Post by heroray on May 10, 2007 16:07:52 GMT -5
Funny thing is, Alot of people Believe man Evolved from Monkeys, and Every Liveing thing is Evolvoving constantly, and the Earth has Evolved from Pangea to Contintents, We also have evolved through 4 MAJOR Ice Ages, but because its a little warmer today, It in not Natural Evolution, but Man Caused. hmmmm Maybe just blame it on the Fish for Evolving in the first place? hehe, I'm gonna do my part to cure Global warming, This weekend, Im gonna take my boat and Go Fishing. I will Catch some of them Bastages and fry them over a wood fire to Extract some revenge for Evolving in the first place. Whip, If your near Ohio this weekend, Give me a call, I would love you to join me in my Fight against Global warming
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Post by jeffmann77 on May 10, 2007 16:20:30 GMT -5
Oh the young kids of today. What does evolution and the belief for or against have anything to do with the topic at hand? Im as agnostic as they come, but even I have to admit there are some leaps in evolution. If you set aside the bravdo and cavalier attitude and really think about "how" evolution could happen to the degree it would have to, to support it as a valid theory, you might actually question it yourself. Try to think about each individual organ and what must have happened to have this organ develop without killing its host. I do not think there is enough time to have evolved from slime to human. We havent changed much since recorded history, at best we have gotten a lil taller and a lot fatter. Considering all the new chemicals in our bodies, we should be mutating left and right. Still love this video... www.collegeslackers.com/video/558 ...it reminds me of Rod and fmonk. It doesnt have anything to do with global warming. It has to do with ray's claim that liberals are engaged in "religious fantasies" Creationism, a championed idea of the republicans, is just that. Religious fantasy I suppose you math skills arent what you claim them to be. 4 thousand years (recorded history of man) is a minute % of 4 billion years. Cancer is techinacally a mutation. And natural selection doesnt work as it should when you live in a society that tries to aid those that natural selection would deem "unfit".
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Post by jeffmann77 on May 10, 2007 16:21:01 GMT -5
that gave me an laugh wanna know whats scarier than global warming? The fact that 8 of 10 republican presidential candidates don't beleive in evolution. Thats what you call religious fantasy You show me the 2 that Do Believe in Evolution is what Created Man, and I will show you 2 Non Consertivities. I once heard a guy that truely believed that "God made man, But he used a monkey to do it". Ray are you saying now that you dont beleive in evolution either? I thought you did
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Post by jeffmann77 on May 10, 2007 16:30:13 GMT -5
Funny thing is, Alot of people Believe man Evolved from Monkeys, and Every Liveing thing is Evolvoving constantly, and the Earth has Evolved from Pangea to Contintents, We also have evolved through 4 MAJOR Ice Ages, but because its a little warmer today, It in not Natural Evolution, but Man Caused. hmmmm Maybe just blame it on the Fish for Evolving in the first place? hehe, I'm gonna do my part to cure Global warming, This weekend, Im gonna take my boat and Go Fishing. I will Catch some of them Bastages and fry them over a wood fire to Extract some revenge for Evolving in the first place. Whip, If your near Ohio this weekend, Give me a call, I would love you to join me in my Fight against Global warming Ray. I know its hard for alot of people to comprehend, but we are talking about numbers that are hard for alot of people to grasp. Things like evolution, continantel drift, global climate shifts. These things happen over long periods of time, we are talking millions of years. There is absolutely no comparison here between these things and the current warming trend which is taking place over mere decades. I am not 100% convinced that global warming is entirely man based either, but when you start comparing it to these things you lose all credibility. Try solar cycles or earth's natural carbon cycle
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Post by heroray on May 10, 2007 16:33:16 GMT -5
Yes, I believe that things do Evolve.
I Believe that Plant, animals, and Eco Systems CHANGE to adapt to their Environment. I do Believe that Man once had a longer tail. But I do believe that God Created Heaven and Earth, and He created Man in His Image.
I Also believe that Earth is not the Only Planet he Created life on. But I do not Believe that UFO's from other planets have visited Earth.
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Post by jeffmann77 on May 10, 2007 16:40:32 GMT -5
Yes, I believe that things do Evolve. I Believe that Plant, animals, and Eco Systems CHANGE to adapt to their Environment. I do Believe that Man once had a longer tail. But I do believe that God Created Heaven and Earth, and He created Man in His Image. I Also believe that Earth is not the Only Planet he Created life on. But I do not Believe that UFO's from other planets have visited Earth. Dude you've got a tail? Pics plz
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Post by heroray on May 10, 2007 18:18:43 GMT -5
Sorry no chat log with it. How does this thread rate now?
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Post by XXXTheGoddessXXX on May 10, 2007 19:38:40 GMT -5
It doesnt have anything to do with global warming. It has to do with ray's claim that liberals are engaged in "religious fantasies" Creationism, a championed idea of the republicans, is just that. Religious fantasy
And yet you cited that 8 out of 10 repub candidates DONT believe in evolution.
I suppose you math skills arent what you claim them to be. 4 thousand years (recorded history of man) is a minute % of 4 billion years.
Sure it is, but can you name one mutation of change that has had lasting effect on the human race in 4,000 years? Give me something like green hair, or fangs, how bout night vision, something. I mean "THINK" about it. Really sit down and think about how many bones, ligaments, teeth, vertabre, hair, etc. Also think about the odds of finding a mate and breeding a certain mutation. Analyze the "eye" and tell me how it formed.
Cancer is techinacally a mutation. And natural selection doesnt work as it should when you live in a society that tries to aid those that natural selection would deem "unfit".
Cancer is a mutation, yes I give you that. It is a mutation from chemical compounds that man has made. No where in history can you find man made chemical compounds being ingested. Hence this mutation is man made, it has nothing to do with nature.
I am not saying evolution or perhaps I should say "adaptation" doesnt exist, I just question the timeframe given all the creatures/vegitation of this planet.
Ill argue with you till the cows come home about the ridiculous stories in the bible, but I cant sit here with my eyes closed when they say we evolved from neanderthals some 24,000 years ago, thats A LOT of changes in a short period of time.
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Post by rodrigom on May 10, 2007 21:04:42 GMT -5
indeed. earth is flat and it is in center of universe.
lol, dude, not mutation like x-man.
Lemme tell you a exemple about mutation. It`s about adapting. If you have a hostile evironment, only those that are strong enough to live in there will be able to reproduce themselves and spread up they gens, that makes them strong. Just check how resistent some farm plagues are - with the poisons used to kill them, only the very few germs that could survive to it reproduced themselves, making a "new", "evolued", "muted" kind of germs, that are resistent to this kind of poison.
So you saying that cancer is a modern disease?
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Post by Emilioooo on May 10, 2007 21:31:41 GMT -5
Ill argue with you till the cows come home about the ridiculous stories in the bible, but I cant sit here with my eyes closed when they say we evolved from neanderthals some 24,000 years ago, thats A LOT of changes in a short period of time. [/b][/quote] Ever heard of a condition called synesthesia? Where people see colours when listening to music, or taste when feeling different textures? Well, homo sapiens, unlike neanderfals, all have sound and vision senses slightly overlapping, which for one, enables us to understand language. This key mutation is instrumental to man's inventiveness, which affects to invention are exponential. I dare say we would still be stuck in the stone-age if it was not for this mutation! The physical changes are not as much as you may think. Environment plays a vastly important part of our appearance. A short, hairy and heavily built frame would be ideal to survive in an ice-age. Not so out of one. Diet is another factor. As to facial features, skin colour and build, these do change dramatically within short periods of time. You just have to look at the diversity of humans now -we all came from the same place! It is mainly the environment which changes our appearance, and we are in no ice-age.
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