Next US Prez

[Avogadro]

hehe

[LuckyLukeNJJ]

From the informations we get here in old europe it looks like this:

huckabee ... stands for creationism.. rofl wont get 1 % here

Hillary ..stands for an old way ( you know what you get) , dont risk anything but no real changes

Obama ... the only chance for real changes ( not sure only good ones) Young, can offer a new spirit

Rest ... seems no chances

[Avogadro]

Well Canada could alwasy lend you guys a few worthy candidates?

[MzCiv]

jeffmann77 said:

yeah creationists and evolution deniers are clearly focusing on the more educated americans. wait.......

oh ur right jeffman - clearly it takes waaaaaay more intelligence to believe in supermagical atoms bumping into each other, exploding, and creating a living, breathing planet ...than it takes to believe in a supernatural power creating one

[Zardoz]

Then again, could it be that a supernatural power made the supermagical atoms and then had them bump into each other?

Personally I like this theory more than the "I Dream of Genie" theory where he/she "blinks" elephants and aardvarks and Yilar into existance one by one.

[jeffmann77]

mzcivmilf said:

jeffmann77 said:

yeah creationists and evolution deniers are clearly focusing on the more educated americans. wait.......

oh ur right jeffman - clearly it takes waaaaaay more intelligence to believe in supermagical atoms bumping into each other, exploding, and creating a living, breathing planet ...than it takes to believe in a supernatural power creating one

thank you for proving my point.

religious fanaticism does not equal intelligence.
judging by your description here, ill bet your grasp of natural science is on par with that of a 5 year old. congrats

[whiplash]

It's rediculous to think that people of religious faith cannot grasp science.

[Avogadro]

Agreed. In fact they often grasp science well enough to manipulate its tenets to their behalf.

[civ]

Religious Supremasicsts, also known as creationists that come principally come from the baptist and fundamental sects, are blind to science.

atoms bumping into each other, exploding, and creating a living, breathing planet

Take this as example. This process I can assume relates to several disciplines in science that the author then dismisses in a small sentence.

Atoms bumping into each other, exploding - This reference must relate to the nuclear fusion of stars. Our Sol is ~5 billion years old and creates new elements through fusion. The creationist does not believe this and hence dismisses the chemistry, physics and cosmology contributions of all scientists from Einstein to Newton. The same is true if the author was relating to the big bang, or supernova.

creating a living, breathing planet - Again the role of chemisty and physics are attacked. These two fundamental concepts shape Earth sciences from geology, geomorphology, biology and most importantly evolution.

Dismissing - Cosmology, Physics, chemistry, biology, geology and evolution in a single utterance. Maybe the author can join the new "View" Co-Host Sherri Shepherd doesn'tknow if world is flat.

This in-depth java screen shows the timeline from the big bang through hominid evolution, in simplistic animated overview. www.johnkyrk.com/evolution.html

[jeffmann77]

whiplash said:

It's rediculous to think that people of religious faith cannot grasp science.

Did I say that? No. I said that Mz clearly cannot grasp science and that is quite obviously true.

Plenty of people of religious faith grasp science perfectly well. i happen to believe in God. Does that surprise you?

What I am talking about is the religious fundamentalists. The ones who not only fail to grasp science but seem intent on a flat out denial of it. These are the creationists and idiots who want to stop teaching evolution in our schools, instead teaching biblical fantasy stories.
These people are almost 100% republicans. My point is a refute of your claim that it is the democrats who pander to the uneducated buffoons in this country.

[whiplash]

jeffmann77 said:

whiplash said:

It's rediculous to think that people of religious faith cannot grasp science.

Did I say that? No. I said that Mz clearly cannot grasp science and that is quite obviously true.

Plenty of people of religious faith grasp science perfectly well. i happen to believe in God. Does that surprise you?

What I am talking about is the religious fundamentalists. The ones who not only fail to grasp science but seem intent on a flat out denial of it. These are the creationists and idiots who want to stop teaching evolution in our schools, instead teaching biblical fantasy stories.
These people are almost 100% republicans. My point is a refute of your claim that it is the democrats who pander to the uneducated buffoons in this country.

Ah, ok I understand you now.

But, I don't think that creationism and evolusion are necessarily mutually exclusive. I think that was the point Avo was trying to make.

[MzCiv]

jeffmann77 said:

whiplash said:

It's rediculous to think that people of religious faith cannot grasp science.

Did I say that? No. I said that Mz clearly cannot grasp science and that is quite obviously true.


What I am talking about is the religious fundamentalists.

Jeff dear, the ignorant are the people who wont' admit that just b/c another party doesn't agree with something doesn't mean they cant' or don't grasp it. I'm an educated woman with probly more degrees than you have. I simply don't agree with everything taught in the education system. Most current scientific principles were actually discovered b/c someone refused to except the "current acceptable" principle. These same scientists that you hold so reverantly are from the same line of studies that once believed the earth was flat, that leeches cured illnesses by extracting bad blood, and that smoking posed no danger to the human body. Good thing someone refused to blindly follow "modern scientists" on all those points, eh. ( They also once understood the earth to be flat - Yah they're DEFINATELY omniscient aren't they???) I'm only pointing out that many of you have, and have always, followed blindly along with modern scientists just as some follow blindly along with their preachers. And in my opinion, neither is less stable.

And b/c I choose to point out that its no less silly to blindly follow modern science than it is to blindly follow religion, that makes me a religious finatic ? Wow - you have the reasoning skills of a three year old .

[jeffmann77]

my only hope is that people as ignorant as yourself die off before corrupting your children with this rubbish, as i have no doubt your parents did to you.

mzcivmilf said:

These same scientists that you hold so reverantly are from the same line of studies that once believed the earth was flat, that leeches cured illnesses by extracting bad blood, and that smoking posed no danger to the human body

you are so stupid its laughable to me. the first two examples you say here are ideas that AROSE FROM RELIGION LOL, not science! and would you really beleive anyone who said smoking wasnt harmful, even if he wasn't being paid by a tobacco company? thanks for the laughs lol

[Emilioooo]

mzcivmilf said:

These same scientists that you hold so reverantly are from the same line of studies that once believed the earth was flat,

Maybe a wrong example you picked. After the collapse of Rome, many of their technological advances and scientific ideas (knowledge that the earth was round being one), were discarded, and Europe plunged into the Dark Ages -where Religion took centre stage.

[Yilar]

I'd rather believe what the scientists say compared to what was written down supposely 2000 year about jesus and all that. Back then most didn't know jack shit anyway. In my mind religion was created to suppress the people. That it has been carried on for 2000 years (?) is amazing, considering the fact that noone can prove that anything in the bible is actually somewhat true. It is a believe, not a fact, it no better than saying that Yilar is god.

What strikes me as amazing is whenever I say "i'm god" people laugh, but when I tell them that religion is a fraud they get offended.