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Post by vvictor on Aug 14, 2005 0:24:01 GMT -5
Situation 1:
I am attacking city with tow with my tow. After the battle city is mine my tow with 0/3 hp there. My opp told me to give him city, because I can not take a city with 0 hp unit...
Situation 2:
anc 1 city elim
My city with 1 warrior only is attacked by a spearman. After the battle my city empty. But is still mine!!! Opp told me that I have to drop from the game. Some people say, that I HAVE THE RIGHT to go on, but I SHOULD drop...
Are this situations under any rules, or it's always time-spot discretional decision?
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Post by SirPartyMan on Aug 14, 2005 1:36:14 GMT -5
Yes it's too bad the game has bugs. The "EMPTY CITY" bug has been around a long time and many arguments have ensued as a result. The Official Admin ruling is that whatever the game says, is what happened.
Sometimes people will concede defeat if left with an empty city, but they are not obligated to.
In other words, you're not dead until the game says you're dead.
If the game says Greece kept the city, Greece kept the city.
Hit points of units are not deciding factor. Sometimes 0 hit points unit remain on battlefield. They should not be used (you can't disband normally, but opponent can kill them. The game thinks they have .0001 health and eventually they'll recover).
So in both those situations you prevailed.
Oh for CIV4 ... coming this fall, hopefully, to stores near you.
SPM
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Post by Kurzon on Aug 19, 2005 13:56:19 GMT -5
I have to take exception to this rulling - it is a bug - ladder rules state the it is a vioation of the rules to take advantage of bugs - therefore taking advantage of the bug is a violation.
Simple logic
Kurzon
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Post by whiplash on Aug 19, 2005 14:03:02 GMT -5
It's not that simple because you don't really know what the outcome of the battle might have been had the bug not occurred. Also, the two players involved sometimes see different things. The defender may see a unit in the city while the attacker does not.
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Post by CanuckSoldier on Aug 19, 2005 20:24:01 GMT -5
I have to take exception to this rulling - it is a bug - ladder rules state the it is a vioation of the rules to take advantage of bugs - therefore taking advantage of the bug is a violation. Simple logic Kurzon That's not quit what the rules say, it's cheating to knowingly abuse a bug/exploit to your advantage. Since players can in no way influence the game to make a "emtpy city bug" or "zero hit point unit bug" happen, it's not cheating. There's no way for two players to know in advance that there battles will do this. Which is why we rule that the game decides what happens in these cases. CS |
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Post by bonezz on Aug 22, 2005 13:20:26 GMT -5
Also, the two players involved sometimes see different things. The defender may see a unit in the city while the attacker does not. Do people really buy this? Sure I have heard the excuse before, heck I have even ran into invisible units... but when this happens it always goes to an OOS. If someone replys to empty city bug, "but I see a unit in there" and there is no OOS... I think they are full of it. |
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Post by whiplash on Aug 22, 2005 14:12:06 GMT -5
I haven't seen it since v 1.22 but I recall seeing it in previous versions. I don't know if it happens in 1.22 or not because I have never seen an empty city bug with that version; I just hear about them from other players in the game.
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Post by solo on Aug 23, 2005 7:34:17 GMT -5
I have seen empty city bug, both for me and opponents. Never had any problems with it personally, like arguments if it's empty or not.
Even if the rules do not say you have to quit (if its 1 city elim) Then the honorable thing to do is admitting city is empty, and leave game. I always do this myself and expect others to do the same.
Just play the way you would like others to play against you...very simpel ;D
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Post by Snarf on Aug 23, 2005 14:36:24 GMT -5
I had someone yell empty city once when I saw 5 units in the city still and only 2 were reinforcements. If I remember correctly the game did OOS though.
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Post by Draka on Jul 31, 2006 21:40:52 GMT -5
This rule is fugged up.
What about cruises?
Only noobs obey this rule.
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Post by shinkyosato on Oct 17, 2006 18:52:43 GMT -5
Well, what if you have a unit that is being bombed and you see your unit at 2hp while you're opponent saw it at zero?
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Post by Don K Hotay on Oct 17, 2006 19:50:43 GMT -5
Well, what if you have a unit that is being bombed and you see your unit at 2hp while you're opponent saw it at zero? That's an easy one....you stop playing fut |
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Post by shinkyosato on Oct 17, 2006 19:55:50 GMT -5
Well, I'm just a little confused because I'm being accused of cheating because of a buggy game  |
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Post by Ghost on Oct 17, 2006 19:57:21 GMT -5
Well, what if you have a unit that is being bombed and you see your unit at 2hp while you're opponent saw it at zero? Put king on boat then disband boat is what i would do if i where you. |
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Post by shinkyosato on Oct 17, 2006 20:10:44 GMT -5
Take for insatnce, if I sent a worker a few tiles away from an enemy city to build an airbase. Then once I have done so, no one else can see the airbase besides me. all ray could see was the worker and the two bombers I had on the base. Is that the game just being buggy? I think that's the obvious answer. Especially since the game had to be reloaded 3 times before I even came to sub Hein  |
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