Bombs and Suspensions

[Avogadro]

Aaaah I remember those few brilliant week as #1. Nightly QC's with ranks 1-2-3-4-5-6-7. Now those were awesome games. Intimidating, sweat producing affairs. Who ever won was champ, whoever died first slipped 7 spots. I would encourage you to stay and simply defend your title as often as you can. If you lose it? So what? You have proven your self to be very skilled and will be remembered as being so. I think some people are complaining because although you play regularly it is rarely against #2. Fight hard and you will be known as one of the better champions this league has had.

[Lastride]

Those were fun times Avo, they really were.

[Emilioooo]

Just to recap on what anti said...

antiquity2 said:

I just got put in box for 3 days for 3 failed formal challanges, no big whop, except it was only my 2nd at most missed formal challange as the first one the person, who knows who they are did not report to me on time, the admins, namely avo also knows this as he was the one i told

[/u][/i], thought i would not play the person. I was assured this non report/uncompleted chanange would not come back to bite me.
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Did admin remove one of the failed challanges due to the challanger not reporting his loss to anti? No. So anti was right to say admin did not do their job.

heroray said:

You didnt complete 3 formal challenges, you were boxed by the Software Automaticly. Was it our job to give you special treatment?

Heroray

And heroray, does Anti deserve special treatment? No again. He should, like anybody else get boxed ONLY for failing to compete in 3 challanges. If one of them is a result of another player not reporting, then it is the admin's job to prevent it as going down as him failing to show.

I thank you SPM for removing anti from the box, but if admin can remove failed challanges (not sure if you can or not) then this situation should not have arose.

[Avogadro]

If there is a way to remove the challenges, I am unaware. It is automatic with cases software. This being said, woudlnt it have been easier, once boxed, to email us? We could have easily fixed it but I guess that's no fun. Much better to post in forums that we are lazy and don't do our jobs

[SirPartyMan]

An admin *CAN* reduce the # of "Failed" formal challenges a player has. [Note to other admins: go to EDIT USER and look at bottom of screen where it says "FORMAL CHALLENGES" and edit the field called "FAILED"].

I'm not sure if this happened or not in this case, but apparently it didn't.

When this situation has happened before, the person involved usually contacts us first and inquires WHY they were boxed and we fix the situation when appropriate.

As soon as it was brought to my attention, I corrected the situation and I have spoken to both the current #1 and #2 and asked them to play their formal challenge in next 48 hours.

Best, SPM

[Emilioooo]

Avo, Ant did contact you when the first failed challange occured. He was assured, in his words, that it would not come back to bite him. When it did, you can hardly blame his frustrations.

Anyway, looks like the matter is resolved.

[Avogadro]

Yes I remember him speaking to me a week or two ago about failed challenges. I must have forgotten to email SPM to ask how to reduce the number. Sorry Anti, but next time, gimme email ok?

[heroray]

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Anyone bother to even look at Antiquitys Record?
Eligible? Yes
Issued: 2
Received: 12
Win-Loss: 6-4
Challenged? No

He Challenged 2 Players and Was Challenged 12 times For a total of 14 matches that should have been played. His win loss record was 6-4 for a total of 10 games. THat is 4 Challenges he Missed.

This new style of blaming everything on the admins has gotten to the point where maybe should I blame Avo that my dog is Sick? Or maybe Nealcain that my Kid didnt do his homework? Or maybe SPM that my investments have been returning in the Negitive the last few years? Or the reason B2C didnt win the CCC was all Iks Fault, Better yet, Is it Heroray's Fault that 9-11 Happend?

Come on, Take some Responsiblilty for YOUR ACTIONS.

[Emilioooo]

So if I formally challage you and you actually beat me, it is YOUR responsibility for ME to report?

To the 4 challanges he missed, one of them is the challange Ginulen put down today (still has 48hrs to play it) and another is the one avo should have removed, because the report was late, which he has since appologised for.

By my count it is only 2 challanges he missed. This issue was already resolved if you had cared to read last few posts. Or how you would have put it "it's all good". Nice work in opening it back up and spurting out general retardness.

[Avogadro]

And you are Anti's soul-mate? Ray point is a champion should play alot, against top players to give them a shot. I received 6 emaisl over past 2 months about people complaining they are not getting a shot at top spot. No offense but this is by far the most complaints a champion has ever received.

We all knwo what it is liek to climb the ranks the first time. It's exilerating. There is no reason why someone in #2 spot should not get a shot before his/her rank drops.

[Emilioooo]

Simple matter is, 0 players in, 1 player out = weaker ladder.

[Bonez]

All in all, anti is a nice guy, but we have all seen him go the max days in #1 without a penalty only to squeeze in 1 game and disappear for the maximum allotted time again. Not once, not twice, but over and over.... as far as I know, this is the 2nd "run" like this he did.... last time he played a zillion games in a few days, got to #1 and his playing dropped dramatically after he got it. THIS is a viloation of rules. In fact I am quite sure if he didnt break all these rules, he atleast pushed them to the limit for a long while. These rules are :

Top Ten

Because everyone dreams of being in the Top Ten we have some special rules that apply for these users. This keeps the competition for these slots in high gear. Only players who are ranked in the Top Ten need to worry about these.

Top of the Heap: Everyone wants a shot at #1; consequently there should be a lot of activity and movement in the top ranks of the Ladder. Remember that rank has priority when it comes to challenges. Keeping that in mind, the number one player should play the number two player as often as possible.

Inactivity: Players in the Top Ten must play at least once every 5 days. If they don't they are automatically dropped five rungs and their inactivity counter is reset. There are no exceptions to this rule.

Rank Hounding: Players in the Top Ten are expected to be as active after they reach the top ranks as they were before. In other words, if you are playing 20 games a day to make it to the Top Ten and then only play once a week to hold your rank you may be penalized.

Not to mention a rule that applies to all, not just the "top of the heap" which is:

Specific Ranks: It is illegal to refuse matches based on Ladder rank. You may request a specific rank or range when advertising for a challenge, but you may not refuse a valid challenge simply because the challenger is not the rank you are wanting to play.

That being said.... I don't know what kick you get out of camping at number 1, but I disagree with Emiliooo and agree at the same time.... it hurts later to lose a player, but giving other people a shot when previously it was denied them because one player was "ball-hogging" could prove to lead to more activity. It's about time someone else got a shot.

Anti, you weren't #1 so long cause you were the best in the league... imho, you simply knew how to push the limit of inactivity while camping there... by no means were/are you best on ladder, shucks i wouldn't even put you at top 10.... when i get in games and the captains are completely unequal, they try to even them up a bit... in your case you often wait to see who is in game, know you have first pick and make ridiculous teams, and no compromise about it unless your rank was not in jeopardy. It's too bad CG or Medevil or someone wasn't #2 so no matter who u picked, u were gonna get a loss.... so you like to throw stones on your way out? Hope you weren't under the delusion some would get thrown back at ya.....

sad to see ya go, glad someone else gets a shot (and just fyi, in over 3 years on ladder I never received #1.... but I still know I can beat #1's @$$ at anytime )

[heroray]

arcturus said:

So if I formally challage you and you actually beat me, it is YOUR responsibility for ME to report?

To the 4 challanges he missed, one of them is the challange Ginulen put down today (still has 48hrs to play it) and another is the one avo should have removed, because the report was late, which he has since appologised for.

By my count it is only 2 challanges he missed. This issue was already resolved if you had cared to read last few posts. Or how you would have put it "it's all good". Nice work in opening it back up and spurting out general retardness.

I do not claim to Not be Retarded. But look at my post again.
It says Challenged NO. that means there are no Active Open Challenges against him.

Don't take the "Easy way out" and Just bash the admins.

Bonze, Caius, Whip, Dune, and a few others, I truly appreciate and Respect them for there criticism because they actually back up their arguments with some Truth and conviction. I honestly don't feel they "Bash" just to "Bash". I also think the so called can of worms you speak of was not opened by myself. I was only responding to my opinion of, "If things are not perfect, Blame the Admins"

[Don K Hotay]

My feelings would get hurt to Ant, I'm with ya man. Men can cry to you know

[Emilioooo]

It is rather a silly point to get all worked up about, but I take offence by you insinuating I am bashing admin just because it is the flavour of the month.