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Post by whiplash on Sept 12, 2007 11:03:43 GMT -5
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296450,00.html Excerpt: "Consequently, according to a well-placed Bush administration source, "everyone in town" is now participating in a broad discussion about the costs and benefits of military action against Iran, with the likely timeframe for any such course of action being over the next eight to 10 months, after the presidential primaries have probably been decided, but well before the November 2008 elections." I don't think GWB will leave office with Iran's nuclear program intact.
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Post by BoNeHeD on Sept 12, 2007 11:15:28 GMT -5
the link is dead Whip, please repost.
I'd agree only because Iran is to radical to posess the nuclear genie. Israel must be allowed to exist, and Iran has declared it will destroy Israel. I know alot of Persians from my days in the Air Force and civilian life and most if not all agree that Iran is now a radical fundamentalist state. If a new government could somehow be elected, Iran would be welcomed into the 21st century...
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Post by whiplash on Sept 12, 2007 12:56:22 GMT -5
the link is dead Whip, please repost. I'd agree only because Iran is to radical to posess the nuclear genie. Israel must be allowed to exist, and Iran has declared it will destroy Israel. I know alot of Persians from my days in the Air Force and civilian life and most if not all agree that Iran is now a radical fundamentalist state. If a new government could somehow be elected, Iran would be welcomed into the 21st century... The link is not dead; you just need to paste the url into your browser rather than simply clicking on it. |
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Post by Assédix on Sept 12, 2007 17:24:26 GMT -5
Bomb this, kill that, is that all you ever think about?
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Post by whiplash on Sept 12, 2007 22:32:51 GMT -5
Well, maybe Israel will beat us to it.
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Post by rodrigom on Sept 13, 2007 6:57:36 GMT -5
Israel is not stupid enough to hit Iran.
First, cuz he's on range of any bomb (Nuclear or not). Second, cuz he's surrounded by potential enemies that would love to get the oportunity to strike - especially if Israeli forces are busy fighting a big country like Iran.
There's also no reason to force Israel to fight. Bush can (try) force United Nations to do it if Iran really is a world threat (only reason that US could have to hit them... In theory)
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Post by jack on Sept 13, 2007 7:21:13 GMT -5
that is why I don't shock myself anymore. If american people thinks that the war is still the answer, why i should wonder about george w. bush?
dear whiplash,
tell me why usa, france and germany got nuclear plant and iran can't?
why usa has atomic bomb and everyone else has to disband it?
why tons of civils has been killed in "iraqi"?
why the fuggin america is not able to achieve that they are not who leads the world!?!?
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Post by civrat on Sept 13, 2007 7:56:35 GMT -5
that is why I don't shock myself anymore. If american people thinks that the war is still the answer, why i should wonder about george w. bush? dear whiplash, tell me why usa, france and germany got nuclear plant and iran can't? why usa has atomic bomb and everyone else has to disband it? why tons of civils has been killed in "iraqi"? why the fuggin america is not able to achieve that they are not who leads the world!?!? For the same reason you dont allow a felon to walk into Guns "R" Us and buy himself a glock |
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Post by jack on Sept 13, 2007 8:06:32 GMT -5
that is why I don't shock myself anymore. If american people thinks that the war is still the answer, why i should wonder about george w. bush? dear whiplash, tell me why usa, france and germany got nuclear plant and iran can't? why usa has atomic bomb and everyone else has to disband it? why tons of civils has been killed in "iraqi"? why the fuggin america is not able to achieve that they are not who leads the world!?!? For the same reason you dont allow a felon to walk into Guns "R" Us and buy himself a glock dear dish.. sorry but my english not my mother tongue and i'm not really able to get what u trying to say  |
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Post by civrat on Sept 13, 2007 8:37:13 GMT -5
For the same reason you dont allow a felon to walk into Guns "R" Us and buy himself a glock dear dish.. sorry but my english not my mother tongue and i'm not really able to get what u trying to say Your first sentence is why can't Iran have Nuclear plants.. There are all sorts of scary combinations — petrodollars, nukes, terrorism, and fanaticism. But Iran is a uniquely fivefold danger. It has enough cash to buy influence and exemption; nuclear weapons to threaten civilization; oil reserves to blackmail a petroleum hungry world; terrorists to either find sanctuary under a nuclear umbrella or to be armed with dirty bombs; and it has a leader who wishes either to take his entire country into paradise, or at least back to the eighth century amid the ashes of the Middle East. Another thing to consider, any country that seeks "peaceful" nuclear power and is completely self-sufficient in energy production is de facto suspect. Iran has enough natural gas to meet its clean electrical generation needs for centuries. The only possible rationale for its multi-billion-dollar program of building nuclear reactors, and spending billions more to hide and decentralize them, is to obtain weapons, and thus to gain clout and attention in a manner that otherwise is not warranted by either Iranian conventional forces, cultural influence, or economic achievement A little outake from a meeting between President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Mualem in January of 07; Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a meeting with Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Mualem in Tehran on Tuesday assured that the United States and the Zionist regime of Israel will soon come to the end of their lives...like I said you dont give a gun to a felon. |
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Post by jack on Sept 13, 2007 8:56:57 GMT -5
I could agree with you, but..
Iran is not so rich, they need to export gas and oil to earn some money. But this is not enough. Moreover now, they export too much, and CAN'T satisfy their home request. Fuel in iran costs more than you think.
Yes, we don't have to give a gun to a felon.. usa should have learnt the lesson (take a look on bin laden.. thanks george dad bush).. but war is not the answer! damn.
If u consider Ahmadinejad a felon, what about george w. bush? For the same reason we should DO NOT let him have any power! Neither the possibility to push the WC button!! Or you are inside the people thinking that iraqi war was right?!?
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Post by whiplash on Sept 13, 2007 9:32:51 GMT -5
I could agree with you, but.. Iran is not so rich, they need to export gas and oil to earn some money. But this is not enough. Moreover now, they export too much, and CAN'T satisfy their home request. Fuel in iran costs more than you think. That's because they lack refinery capacity. They have only one refinery and they import 60% of their gasoline. This system is totally nonsensical. They ship crude offshore then buy it back after refining. If energy and economics were their true goals they would be building oil refineries not uranium extraction facilities. I don't understand your reference to Bush and Bin Laden. Sadly, sometimes war is the only answer. You listen to too much Anti-American propoganda. GWB has never said that an entire nation of people should be wiped off of the map. As to "push the ... button", that notion is rediculous. |
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Post by whiplash on Sept 13, 2007 9:59:15 GMT -5
PS:
Iran could hire Halliburton to buld an oil refinery; that would make GWB happy. ;D
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Post by jack on Sept 13, 2007 15:44:57 GMT -5
whiplash.. i'm not anti-us, i'm not pro-us.. I'm just putting some "intellettual" skill in.
War IS NEVER the answer. It was and it is in NOT CIVILIZED nations. Look at african states or Israel/palestine.. everything is moved by the mass.. by the ignorance of the masses, ignorance that often comes from religion. (yes I'm kinda atheist)
Why USA has to decide about lifes? U got enough issues in your country with children shooting at home/school, racism, capital punishment etc.. Or what I heard in my country news is just anti-usa propaganda?
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Post by whiplash on Sept 13, 2007 16:21:41 GMT -5
If the US had not gone to war against Saddam how much of the middle-east whould he now own?
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